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A Kossack's Guide to Book Publishing - Torture Edition [updated]

Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 09:03:14 PM PDT

I almost didn't write this diary tonight. The events of the last couple of days have been so dispiriting, that I thought about taking a break, and just focusing on writing the books I have under contract, and the Connecticut election activities I'm involved with through the DTC I'm a member of. (Yeah, my name was on the round-up-and-torture list long before the Leaving Laura follies.) But then I thought about it a little more. The whole point of this series is to help progressive writers to finish books, sell them, and get them published. And I'll be damned if I'm going to stop pushing for that, just because our current government is treating the Constitution and Common Law the way previous generations of fascists treated partisans. ("For every incumbent you defeat, we'll execute ten more Constitutional rights.") So if you're new to the series, start reading here. But new or old, please write, and keep writing - fiction, nonfiction, whatever it is that touches your soul. While we still have a national conscience to be saved.
"I cannot and will not cut my conscience to fit this year's fashions." - Lillian Hellman

There are reasons not to give up in writing, as well as in political events. I've mentioned Walter Hunt before, whose first novel took nearly twenty years to sell before turning into a successful series. Yesterday, the Wildside Press, which publishes my roleplaying game, made an offer on three books: One of them will be a new gaming-related title, but the others are the first two fantasy novels I wrote, finished in the mid-1990s. They landed me my first agent and had some near misses, but until a few days ago I had given up on them ever seeing publication. (Even better news for Kossacks: As part of the deal I will also be editing five other gaming-related titles, including the first two books by our historian extraordinaire, Unitary Moonbat. There will be more news along those lines later - including our forthcoming joint diary on Rove: The Roleplaying Game, which will most likely get me waterboarded even if Leaving Laura doesn't - but tonight I promised that I'd finally get to...


Publishing Contracts - Part 1
A bit of background: I'm not a lawyer (and neither are most of the folks involved in publishing contracts), but I have negotiated quite a few publishing contracts from several different directions - as an editor, as an author, and as a packager. Please don't construe anything I say here as legal advice. The purpose of this is to educate you on what you can expect to see in the contracts you're offered by a publisher so that you can be an educated consumer and ask the right questions. I'll talk about some of my experiences about what is likely to be negotiable and nonnegotiable, and why some seemingly innocuous points may be deal-killers (and seeming deal-killers may be no big deal).

I'm not sure how many episodes the contract part of the series will take up yet, but it may take a few.


Boilerplates
Contracts are another place where an agent is a huge factor. It's not just that your agent will have negotiated far more contracts than you (though she has) or that your agent doesn't have the same emotional attachment to your work and so can negotiate about its worth without seeming to put a price on your soul (if she didn't like your work, she wouldn't be representing you). It's also that your agent has most likely negotiated prior contracts with the publisher in question, which means that many of the most objectionable clauses will already have been removed from the version of the publisher's standard contract offered to your agent.

Every publisher has a boilerplate contract. This is the basic language that is offered to writers, and the starting place for negotiations. Boilerplates contain a mix of clauses that are standard throughout the industry, things that are vital for a publisher, things that a publisher would like to get, and things that are pure wishful thinking. If an agent is involved, the wishful thinking clauses should be off the table from the beginning.

Likewise, your agent will have some comments on the contract, as will you. Some of those things the publisher will be happy to give you (as long as you remember to ask), others you'll negotiate somewhere and meet halfway, and others will be flatly rejected.


The Grant of Rights
All contracts must have a grant of rights (what rights you're giving to the publisher) and a consideration (what the publisher is giving back to you). Not all of those things have to be tangible - the money can be mostly hypothetical or paid long after publication, and the likelhood of Croatian-language rights being exercised is pretty slim, but there has to be an exchange of at least nominal value. (In other words, you can't just give your rights up for nothing. Unless you're a senator, I suppose.)

The opening paragraph of a publishing contract typically looks something like this:

AGREEMENT made this 28th day of September 2006 by and between George W. Bush, hereinafter referred to as "AUTHOR," whose address is c/o Karl Rove Literary Agency, 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW, Washington, DC 20500, and Swordsmith Productions, hereinafter referred to as "SWORDSMITH," whose address is PO Box 242, Pomfret, CT 06258, with regard to AUTHOR's work for a property developed and owned by AUTHOR in whole and in part under the tentative title LEAVING LAURA, hereinafter referred to as "THE BOOK."

I should note for the record that Swordsmith (my company) no longer publishes books at all, so don't send me yours. Even if it's really good. On the other hand, Karl Rove would make a really good literary agent.

The language here will be different if the book is work for hire, or if the copyright is shared. For instance, although I wrote a PowerPuff Girls book for Scholastic Book Clubs a while back, I don't own the rights to what I did because it was work for hire, and Cartoon Network retained the rights to their characters. Copyrights can be shared as well. Ownership of copyright is very important for things like film sales, but the person who creates the work may or may not own the copyright.

Remember, under current copyright law, anything you write is copyrighted in your name the minute you put it into permanent form (such as by posting it to a blog). You don't have to file any paperwork or put up a copyright notice in order for the copyright to be valid. A publishing contract can modify ownership to the copyright, or can clarify who is considered to be the owner and creator of a work. (Other things can modify it as well, such as the notice on DKos that any material not otherwise marked on the site may be freely reproduced elsewhere. That doesn't change your status as the legal owner of the work, but you can't try to retroactively charge people for reprinting it either.)

After the preamble comes the actual grant of rights:

In consideration of the mutual promises and conditions contained herein, it is agreed as follows:

1.    AUTHOR grants to SWORDSMITH the sole and exclusive right to produce, publish, assign, use, license, sub-license, print, reprint, publicize, distribute, sell and otherwise control AUTHOR's work for any version of THE BOOKS in all languages, in all media, and in all countries, throughout the world.

2.    SWORDSMITH shall have the right to license, assign, sell, lease, or otherwise dispose of the following rights to AUTHOR's work for THE BOOKS in whole or in part:

a)    All publication rights, including book or other club editions; direct marketing editions; foreign language editions; trade paperback editions; mass market editions; hardcover editions; foreign serial and other periodical rights; abridgements; adaptations and condensations; limited deluxe editions; special editions; mail order; and all other book editions, including sub-licensing of editions, serial rights, and syndication.

b)    Visual use such as microprint and microfilm; computer software, videodisc, videotape, CD-ROM, CD-I, DVD, interactive videodisc, telephone and/or on-line use, and any other electronic, electromagnetic, or optical reproduction in use now or hereinafter developed, in all languages, throughout the world.

c)         All audio rights, such as audiocassette, compact disc, and any other audio media in use now or hereinafter developed; comics and graphic novels; games; all merchandising rights, such as toys,  calendars, and coloring books rights; all dramatic rights, such as radio, television, and film rights; and all other rights, in all media, in all languages, throughout the world.


This is what is jokingly referred to as "galactic rights" - i.e., "all rights ever developed in any language ever spoken on any planet in the galaxy." Publishers tend to be pretty inclusive in these rights, especially after Disney failed to be specific enough in licensing voice rights for some of their early films, leading to a major lawsuit by voice actors when the first videotapes were released without their consent. Many publishers had a similar mess with the onset of electronic publishing, which wasn't included in many boilerplates. (Much of the publishing industry is simultaneously very acquisitive and a bit stodgily conservative, and that dichotomy can be reflected in publishing contracts.)

Some of these rights are vital to the publisher (like North American book rights and audio rights). Some of them you may not care about (like calendar rights if you're writing a technical manual). Others will depend heavily on who the publisher is and who your agent is. Does the publisher have a strong overseas publishing program and specific ideas for marketing the book abroad? If so, it may pay to grant them the foreign rights (which they will pay you for separately from the North American rights). On the other hand, if your agent is a whiz at foreign sales, or the publisher has no overseas track record, you probably don't want the publisher sitting on rights that your agent can be selling.

Some rights are more subtle. For instance, because of the way films are marketed and commercialized, it's nearly impossible to sell film rights to a studio without also selling game rights. So if you're planning to retain dramatic rights (usually a good idea), make sure you hang onto book rights as well.

I always try to retain dramatic and game rights, but otherwise my general rule of thumb is that I'm willing to give up control of rights that I think the publisher is likely to actually use, but not rights that they're just going to sit on.


The Credit
Something else you don't want to take for granted: How will your name appear on the book:

All editions of THE BOOK shall contain the following authorship credit: "by G. W. Bush."  Said credit shall appear on the front cover, spine, and title page of THE BOOK.

Remember that the name you use here may not be the same name you're using above. Usually, the publisher wants to use your name - and with established authors, the name is the single biggest factor in selling a book. (The cover art is second.) On the other hand, if it's part of a series or a tie-in, your name doesn't really make a difference to the book's sales, and unless it's contractually required, the publisher may not bother to put it on the cover. It never hurts to specify that all editions of the work need to carry the credit, so your name doesn't appear on the hardcover then disappear from the paperback, for instance.

If you're ghost writing the book, you may get no credit on the title page (not even an "as told to" or "written with"), but other credits are possible, such as a special thanks or a coded listing in the acknowledgments. One romance writer who ghost wrote a big-name celebrity's romances wasn't able to even get that, but she finally managed to negotiate for the dedication. So each book is dedicated to her, "without whom this book would not have been possible."


The Work
These are the actual specifics of what you'll be providing the publisher in return for your money. A lot of what's in here has been affected by bitter experiences at the publisher, so while they may be willing to tweak the due dates a bit, they'll be pretty strict on the actual requirements in the contract. (On the other hand, any publisher that expects a writer to meet all deadlines is insane, and publishing contracts cannot, in fact, compel you to do so. If you get writer's block and never finish the book I can't make you give back the money - a big part of why new writers get little or no money until the manuscript is actually turned in. I can prevent you from writing books for anyone else until you finish the one you owe me, but I can't force you to actually write it. Although after today, I suppose I could torture you for it... because tortured prose is just as high quality as tortured confessions.)

4.    AUTHOR's work for THE BOOK shall include the following:

a)    A manuscript of approximately 100,000 words in length. Author shall provide said manuscript to SWORDSMITH both in printed form and on computer diskette, in a format readable by SWORDSMITH.

d)    Reasonable revision of said manuscript as directed by SWORDSMITH.

e)    A brief biography and photograph, for use in THE BOOK and in all promotion for THE BOOK.

f)    Reasonable efforts to assist in publicity, promotion, and marketing for THE BOOK, as directed by SWORDSMITH

5.    AUTHOR's draft for THE BOOK, including all revisions and delivery of biography, shall be delivered within one hundred eighty (180) days of request by SWORDSMITH. AUTHOR's revisions to THE BOOK shall be delivered within thirty (30) days of request by SWORDSMITH.


If it's a multiple-book contract, there will also be provisions for outlines or other material for the later books in the series. (Publishers usually try to sign new writers to multiple book contracts. Generally the publisher is free to reject the second book if the first one doesn't sell well enough, but if the first one is a strong seller, they pick up the rights to book two below market rates. As a new writer, it's very hard to turn down that sort of contract - and you may have very little leverage.)

You may assume that you will happily make any revisions the publisher wants to the book, and gladly do your part to help sell it, but publishers have experienced far too many authors who disappear at key moments when revisions are due, refuse to talk to reporters, or lose interest in the book partway through the process. They won't assume that you'll always be chipper and cooperative, and will want to insist contractually that you actually turn in the book they're expecting, at approximately the time they're expecting it. (A significantly late book will cut the books sales  dramatically, as I discussed a bit in the publishing lists episode.


Scenes from Next Week's Episode...
Next time around, I'll talk about how publishers pay you, and how royalty rates are structured. The boilerplate I'm adapting these from is a packaging boilerplate shorter than the standard publishing contract; it only has about 25 clauses, and no attached schedules (but I'll be pulling them from another boilerplate at the appropriate time... unless people get bored of contract talk before then).


The Rest of the "How Publishing Works" Series
I do still monitor and respond in the previous episodes, so feel free to post questions or comments in them if you'd like. And feel free to post requests for future topics in the comments as well.

Part 1 - Why bad things happen to good books.
Part 2 - Avoiding publishing scams.
Part 3 - Literary conventions (with an emphasis on SF Conventions).
Part 4 - Book packagers.
Part 5 - Submitting a manuscript.
Part 6 - Publishing lists.
Part 7 - Literary agents.
Part 8 - Copyediting.
Part 9 - Marketing and publicity.
Part 10 - Outlining.
Part 11 - Editing.
Part 12 - Ideas.
Part 13 - Contracts.
Part 14 - How Writers Get Paid.

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  •  tip jar (23+ / 0-)

    I needed to feel like I was doing something helpful tonight. This is far short of catharsis, but it's what I could do.

    Economic -5.00 Social -5.49 http://politicalcompass.org/

    by Swordsmith on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 09:02:42 PM PDT

  •  Thanks. Another one saved to my folder (9+ / 0-)

    I'm reading and saving all these, thanks. Have you thought of putting them together to sell as a book, or a downloadable PDF ebook?

    Thank you, Howard Dean.

    by thinkdouble on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 09:15:36 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for continuing to write this series (5+ / 0-)

    I am in the process of writing a book and maintain other blogs. This series has been very useful as a real-world take on the other books and articles I've read on the subject.

    And Leaving Laura may be the wrong title.

    If I were her, I'd be Leaving George.

    Old Abe

  •  yes please (6+ / 0-)

    put these all into a PDF type thingy.

    That reminds me I really ought to be working on my book. I'm going to try your outline technique....maybe this time the book will have a solid beginning middle and end instead of just petering out.

    •  that would be great (8+ / 0-)

      I broached the ebook idea to my agent and to Wildside, and both of them basically said that I need to write lots of other stuff for them first (since I'd have to do a fair amount of revision to get it into book shape, not to mention putting them in order). But when the series concludes I'm going to find a way to turn it into at least an ebook, expanding the essays and including material pointed out in the comments.

      Economic -5.00 Social -5.49 http://politicalcompass.org/

      by Swordsmith on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 09:38:52 PM PDT

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  •  Swordsmith (9+ / 0-)

    You've been fantastic. I find it impossible to write horror at the moment -- or even my outline to send out with queries -- because of the horror taking place in our country.

    There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact. S. Holmes

    by Carnacki on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 10:19:21 PM PDT

    •  There are things I can't write right now either (7+ / 0-)

      There are also things I find myself writing even more passionately. On days like today, I just need to keep fighting, to remind myself that some battles must be fought, win or lose. That some losses lay the groundwork for victory.

      As I wrote elsewhere today:

      As a DTC member pushing hard on GOTV efforts in a key district, I don't dare for a moment let myself despair. Our only chance is to fight to the death, and beyond if need be.

      "I didn't say anything when they came for the enemy combatants..." I'm Jewish. I know what happens when you stop fighting battles against tyranny, even the ones that seem lost and hopeless. And I also know that good that can eventually come from fighting what seem to be lost, hopeless battles. Some battles, like today we will lose, but the ground was not uncontested. And we keep fighting, regardless of losses. We keep fighting.

      Economic -5.00 Social -5.49 http://politicalcompass.org/

      by Swordsmith on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 10:30:08 PM PDT

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      •  Yep (2+ / 0-)

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        I'm writing a new book at the moment a very dark YA and I find that there's a lot of resonance between the themes of the book and the real world at the moment. A lot of fiction is about doing the right thing at great cost in the face of a horrible system and unspeakable enemies and that writing the hope of that really helps me at times like this.

        Kelly McCullough - WebMage, Cybermancy, and CodeSpell available from ACE books (Penguin)

        by KMc on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 07:09:33 AM PDT

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  •  As always your installments are full of (4+ / 0-)

    Useful stuff.   Plus a great way to put off revising
    chapter 27.

    Thanks

  •  Thankful thoughts on a crappy day (4+ / 0-)

    I understand what you mean about it being hard to write on a day like today, just as I share your enthusiasm for our upcoming projects.  I'm really looking forward to Rove: The Role-Playing Game, and of course, can't express enough gratitude for the opportunity to publish with you and Wildside.

    Accompanying that spate of good news, however, is the knowledge that I volunteered campaign time for one of the friggin' 11 DINOS who today defecated upon my Constitution.  Every silver lining's got a touch of grey, I guess, but damn - Salazar's in office in part (a small part, granted) because I helped to put him there.  In addition to feeling highly conflicted, then, I'm also mortified that I assisted in inflicting this coward upon the rest of the nation.  I can't wait to write the Rove game description of the shapeless blob of spineless goo that inhabits the office of Colorado's junior Senator...

  •  Swordsmith, I'm wondering what you think of (4+ / 0-)

    The Blurb Site

    One of the founders did a great interview on NPR in the
    last few days, and it seems pretty great for authors who want
    to go in that direction.

    But I trust you, so am just wondering about your opinion. It
    seems pretty swell for those on this site, especially--for
    OrangeClouds, say--who could publish, find an audience,
    and sell with their route. I just can't tell myself.

    It seems to me we can never give up longing and wishing while we are thoroughly alive George Eliot

    by begone on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 10:45:27 PM PDT

    •  Personally, I would steer clear (4+ / 0-)

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      for a variety of reasons. At a glance it looks like a vanity press, with a number of unattractive features that make it very difficult for anyone except the author to buy copies of the book. (No wholesale pricing even on very large orders, for instance; I didn't look at their shipping and fulfillment terms.)

      If no one but you and your friends are going to buy the book, you can put it up a lot more cheaply at someplace like lulu.com. If you think there's a chance that you can build bookstore interest, there are probably a lot better places than this.

      A quick check of Preditors and Editors and Writer Beware didn't show anything, but I'm tired enough that I might have missed it.

      I'd be very surprised if OrangeClouds doesn't end up with a substantially better deal. (Well, any deal is better than paying a vanity press to publish your books, but you know what I mean.)

      Economic -5.00 Social -5.49 http://politicalcompass.org/

      by Swordsmith on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 11:07:12 PM PDT

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      •  Thank you. n/t (4+ / 0-)

        It seems to me we can never give up longing and wishing while we are thoroughly alive George Eliot

        by begone on Thu Sep 28, 2006 at 11:09:19 PM PDT

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      •  lulu & self-publishing (2+ / 0-)

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        Do remember that Lulu.com is simply a WYSIWYG printing setup; you can do the same, and do it cheaper, if you want to do it yourself. You're still never going to get a bricks-and-mortar bookstore to carry a self-published book. Not even one from Lulu.

        Vanity presses take extra money and often rights from the authors. Self-publishing companies do take extra money from authors, folks. They're just not taking rights. You can do it yourself and get the same results. So people can order directly from Lulu -- they could order from you just as easily (or Amazon or Barnes&Noble online -- see below). You get just as much marketing if you publish yourself: Lulu doesn't market you; you market yourself.

        If they don't know to look at Lulu, or Amazon, or Barnes&Noble, they'll never know your book exists. You have to do the marketing if you want your niche group to buy your book, plain and simple.

        The main advantage to Lulu as of this week is that you can now buy a single ISBN instead of having to buy in packs of 10 (if you do the publishing yourself): you need an ISBN to list online at Amazon.com or Barnesandnoble.com. Other than that, it's just a more expensive model to putting your book in Word or Quark or InDesign yourself, Photoshopping a cover (or using Illustrator, which is better for many reasons I don't have time to get into here, involving use of fonts and vectors), and printing it at a local copy shop that has a Docutech machine to print and bind.

        I spend a great deal of my time, while running Windhaven Press, educating wannabe self-publishers about the ups and (much more importantly) the downs of self-publishing. Marketing your own book is a b*tch. You can always email me from here if you want my entire spiel.

        :the red pencil diaries. what are we doing in this handbasket, and where are we going?:

        by editrix on Sat Sep 30, 2006 at 04:34:44 PM PDT

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  •  A writer MUST understand contracts (2+ / 0-)

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    The one main thing I'd like to add to this lovely addition to Swordsmith's series is this:

    You the writer are ultimately responsible for your contract. Your agent, if they're good, will do wonders for getting you an acceptable contract. But the person who's life's work is on the line is you, and you have to understand what's at stake.

    Which means you also need to understand copyright.

    Never sign anything that you haven't read and understood. Sometimes that means asking your agent what may feel like dumb questions. Do it.

    A lot of fabulous writers have been seriously hurt by failing to follow this simple rule.

    Raymond Feist talks about the Fred Pohl contract axiom: "negotiate a contract like you and the other guy are the best friends in the world, and five minutes after you sign the deal you step off a curb in front of a bus and your heirs hate each other's guts."

    Kelly McCullough - WebMage, Cybermancy, and CodeSpell available from ACE books (Penguin)

    by KMc on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 07:48:27 AM PDT

    •  I don't understand contracts (1+ / 0-)

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      beyond the very minimum. I think this  is one of those things in life where you spend you time finding an expert (agent) you trust, and then get outta the way and let them do their job.

      •  That goes against every piece of advice (3+ / 0-)

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        I've gotten from dozens of high level pros in the business and against the advice of a number of high powered agents that I know. If you choose to do that, it's your lookout, but it's a fantastic way to end up with bad contracts and low payouts.

        Kelly McCullough - WebMage, Cybermancy, and CodeSpell available from ACE books (Penguin)

        by KMc on Sat Sep 30, 2006 at 06:52:26 AM PDT

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        •  Yeah, you're probably right, (3+ / 0-)

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          and I'm certainly just trying to justify my own laziness! Still, I've been very lucky so far. Though I suppose it's not all luck. I went through a few agents and more than a few years before I found someone I really trusted.

          •  I can understand the impulse (2+ / 0-)

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            I do trust my agent, but at the same time, he wants me to read and understand my contracts and is willing to work with me to make sure that happens, and that's part of why I trust him.

            I started my career in short stories where agents generally do not tread and you're own your own for contracts and that probably colors my thinking, but my mentors in the novel world have all been adamant about understanding contracts. I think it's because most of them know at least one or two damn fine writers that got burned badly because they didn't understand what they were signing. Heck, I know a few of those people and it's a crying shame.

            Kelly McCullough - WebMage, Cybermancy, and CodeSpell available from ACE books (Penguin)

            by KMc on Sat Sep 30, 2006 at 10:02:32 AM PDT

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            •  I've been at both ends (2+ / 0-)

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              The first editing job I had offered authors and artists horribly exploitive contracts. If the person complained, I could do a fair amount to make the contracts better, but I was required to use the boilerplate to start. Way too many just looked at it superficially and signed.

              I've known both writers and publishers to get burned by not noticing simple mistakes or omissions from contracts. Outside of publishing, there was the mess created for player, team, and agent when the final version of Lavar Arrington's contract with the Redskins omitted the $6.5 million signing bonus that had been verbally agreed on and no one noticed until after the deal was signed.

              Economic -5.00 Social -5.49 http://politicalcompass.org/

              by Swordsmith on Sat Sep 30, 2006 at 11:26:13 AM PDT

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              •  Yeah, but I'm the last guy (3+ / 0-)

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                who's gonna notice that sort of thing. The amount of time it'd take for me to really educate myself--and, frankly, to change my lazy-ass personality--I could just write another novel.

                But I recognize that this is just one of my own personal preferences that might bite me on the ass one day. Just don't get me talking about my avoidance of self-promotion, or I'll really embarrass myself.

  •  Audio rights (2+ / 0-)

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    Just a quick note. Even audio rights are negotiable depending on your agent, your editor, and the alignment of the stars.

    Kelly McCullough - WebMage, Cybermancy, and CodeSpell available from ACE books (Penguin)

    by KMc on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 07:49:56 AM PDT

  •  Work for hire (3+ / 0-)

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    is such a double-edged sword. It's good to pocket a paycheck, but frustrating to create something yet lose ownership of it. I suppose artists feel the same pinch over selling a good painting.

    Love your publishing series. I need to read each segment again and again until my non-business brain can absorb the nuts and bolts.

    I have a non-fiction book project assembled and don't know where to begin on the path to publication. In my rich fantasy life, I imagine Susan Sarandon playing the title role when it becomes a screenplay. ::sigh:: ... fantasy.

    Big congratulations on your recent successes!

    •  Thanks (2+ / 0-)

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      When artists sell a painting, they almost always retain some rights. Even the places that claim complete ownership, like Harlequin, don't put it on paper, because it would never stand up. They just threaten and browbeat the artists, and since they're such a major market for romance cover art, the artists go along.

      Artists are also notorious for not reading their contracts, and artists reps are sparsely used and not really as helpful as agents by and large. (I'm generalizing broadly here and I know a number of exceptions, but I also know and work with a lot of artists.)

      Economic -5.00 Social -5.49 http://politicalcompass.org/

      by Swordsmith on Fri Sep 29, 2006 at 09:06:42 PM PDT

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  •  Work for Hire? Recommendation? (2+ / 0-)

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    I'm thinking of hiring someone to write two or three YA novels (think 'Animorphs,' not  'Gossip Girls'). Any advice how I can best find some writers to speak with?

    •  Are you looking for established professionals? (2+ / 0-)

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      Or talented newcomers? Or what? If it's professionals, contact the Science Fiction Writers of America via the website. If you're talking about reasonable terms, I'm sure they would be happy to include the info in one of their e-newsletters on potential markets. If you're looking for newcomers, try contacing ralan.com and speculations.com (major market tracking sites) to announce a new work for hire market. Again, if the terms are good, you should get lots of interest. If you're trying to keep your focus very narrow, contact a few agents specializing in F&SF.

      Kelly McCullough - WebMage, Cybermancy, and CodeSpell available from ACE books (Penguin)

      by KMc on Sat Sep 30, 2006 at 07:00:12 AM PDT

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      •  Truth is, I don't even (3+ / 0-)

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        know what reasonable terms are! (Never sold a YA, and don't know anyone who's worked in the field). And the only agent I know who specializes in SF is Caitlin Blaisdell ... but I'm sure I can find more pretty easily.

        Many thanks for the help.

      •  what Kelly said... (2+ / 0-)

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        but I'll add that, once you've sent market information to a few sources, others will pick it up and it will propagate like bunnies.

        If you're looking for people to contact you regarding work within a certain time frame, be sure to include both start and end dates on your guidelines, or you'll be getting queries forever. (You will anyway, but this way there will be fewer of them three years from now. I still get regular emails about a freelance job listing I took down two years ago, because various sites picked it up from mine and keep running it.)

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        by Swordsmith on Sat Sep 30, 2006 at 12:55:24 PM PDT

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        •  for that matter... (2+ / 0-)

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          you may hear from more YA writers than you need just from posting in this thread, given the number of pros lurking here. What can you say publicly about the project?

          Economic -5.00 Social -5.49 http://politicalcompass.org/

          by Swordsmith on Sat Sep 30, 2006 at 12:57:37 PM PDT

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        •  You can also limit by... (1+ / 0-)

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          specifying membership in Science Fiction Writers of America (or whatever YA writers organaization is appropriate) as a precondition for the market. Again, it won't stop some who aren't appropriate to your situation from applying, but it'll cut down the total number of submissions significantly.

          Kelly McCullough - WebMage, Cybermancy, and CodeSpell available from ACE books (Penguin)

          by KMc on Sun Oct 01, 2006 at 06:47:02 AM PDT

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  •  Awesome. (2+ / 0-)

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    These are the kinds of things you just don't learn until you do them, which I haven't yet. If the oft-mentioned novel ever really gets published, I'll owe it to the advice in this series.

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