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A Kossack's Guide to Book Publishing - part 12 [updated]

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Ideas
If you're a writer, people approach you reasonably often with variations on the following proposition: "I have a great idea for a book. How about I give you the idea, you write the book, and we'll split the profits." They seem to think that the key to a great book is a great idea, and that the specialness of the idea is what gives the book it's value. I hate to disillusion them, especially since most of them don't believe me, but here's a cold truth about writing: Ideas are the easy part.
As science fiction writer Alfred Bester once explained it, the average writer could never again have an idea for the rest of her life, and she'd still never run out of things to write about - just going through the backlog of ideas she'd been meaning to write about would fill a lifetime worth of books. Why do new writers see ideas as such a priceless commodity, then? Mostly because they've been conditioned to. Let's start with some Snopes-style debunking:

Ideas are rare and precious gems. Writers have been freely trading ideas around and riffing on each others' concepts since the days when best-sellers were sung, rather than read. (It's been pointed out that the Aeneid is basically Homer fanfiction.) A huge amount of writing is reactive - a writer sees the way a book treats an idea, and takes it in a completely different direction. They're both working from the same idea, technically, but the books are completely different, and may not even be in the same genre. In science and history, this is the tradition that each idea is built on a foundation of the ideas that preceded it, and there's a similar dynamic in much of fiction writing. Your ideas won't descend from the heavens on a fiery chariot and astonish all who see them; they'll grow out of many things you've read and seen. What makes you a good writer is your ability to synthesize your experiences in ways that make them feel distinctive and fresh, not your ability to summon flaming chariots.

People will steal my ideas. If they're good ideas, people probably will. And it won't make a bit of difference on your career, except possibly to help it. If you're working in movies or cancer research, or any other field where a fashionable idea is a hot commodity with a brief shelf-life, then this is a valid concern. In books, which take an average of five years or so between the time the idea hits you and the time the book hits the shelves, it's a lot less of a concern. Writers who try to chase hot ideas typically aren't successful - by the time they finish writing the book, the field has moved on - and what publishers are buying depends a lot more on your writing ability and vision than on the underlying idea. It's not like if you don't hurry, no editor is ever going to buy another vampire book; or retelling of the King Arthur story; or romance in which a woman runs away from the Big Sky country to the city as soon as she can and finds riches and fame, only to be drawn back as an adult by a parent's death and forced to choose between the life she's built and the world she left behind that she's now old enough to appreciate (as typified by the studly but wounded rancher who worked her now-dead family's land).

Nobody has ever thought of this before. Maybe, maybe not. But who cares? Whether it's new is a lot less important than whether you can turn it into a book people want to read. Accessible often trumps original.

This idea will revolutionize the genre I'm writing in or  This idea is too hot for publishers to touch. Often what this means is, most publisers' sales forces have no idea what to do with this. Books that are way outside the box often flounder, because even if a publisher buys them, it's difficult to figure out what the audience for those books is. The genre doesn't get revolutionized by the idea; it gets revolutionized by the idea connecting with a heretofore-unknown audience. For instance, when Oxford professor J. R. R. Tolkien responded to his publisher's request for a sequel to his moderately successful children's book by handing in, eleven years later, a 1,000-page fantasy novel (a more-or-less extinct genre at the time), the publisher was able to split the book into a three volume hardcover, get it serialized on the BBC, and turn it into a moderate literary success - but it never occurred to that publisher that Americans would have any interest in such a highbrow British literary work, or that there would be any demand for it in paperback. It was only when Ace Books' Don Wollheim published a pirated paperback edition (capitalizing on the British publisher accidentally screwing up the American copyright) that Lord of the Rings became a publishing phenomenon and essentially created the modern fantasy genre as a publishing category.


Developing Ideas
There's a cynical argument to be made that the only things people write about in the English language are sex and death. (This isn't true of other languages, but you can boil down most of what's written in English to one or both of these.) But obviously, over the last few centuries, we've learned to develop our approach to sex and death with a certain degree of sophistication and complexity.

In general, one idea isn't enough to carry a book. You may see an idea and know that you will eventually use it somewhere, but until it combines with several other ideas in your mind like the Administration's fantasies about how liquid explosives work, no chemical reaction takes place, as it were. It's not unusual for an idea to lie fallow for years, until something else connects with it and allows you to take it further. (For this reason, lots of writers write those ideas down in a notebook or PDA so they're not faced with moments of "this would have fit perfectly with that thing I can't quite remember from a few years ago.")

While ideas come from things you experience or read about and people who you know, the finished product doesn't always bear much resemblance to the original, nor should it. The book I just finished, a thriller set in the 1880s, has a plot that pivots on a scandal based on a true story that I came across while doing production work on a historical monograph on the Venetian court system during the Renaissance. Part of the protagonist's backstory was inspired by a particularly surreal breakup that happened to me a couple of years ago, although as the story went on, what was intended to be backstory became an important element in adding tension to the main plot. (I doubt the woman in question will recognize the events in the story... although I included her in the acknowledgments while keeping the reasons why elliptical.) While researching a palace in Germany where I wanted to set a swordfight on a spiral staircase (as important to 1890s thrillers as car chases are to 1980s police films), I discovered that there were no spiral staircases in that particular palace - but there was a room filled floor-to-ceiling with priceless Far Eastern porcelain. A swordfight in a room full of porcelain is a pretty irresistible thing to a writer - but a whole lot of other ideas had to happen first before it had any relevance to the story. Many other ideas went into the story, none of which by themselves is new or striking - but I certainly hope that the story as a whole, and the particular way these ideas combine, and some of the emotional issues I explore in the book, feel fresh and new.

I'm not trying to be discouraging here - just the opposite in fact. (There are plenty of places in this series where I try to be discouraging, and I'm usually pretty upfront about it.) The point I'm making is that writers have good ideas because they work hard at them, and learn to develop them from a variety of sources, and hone their ability to work with ideas over a period of years. Great ideas are not a matter of divine inspiration, they're a product of a lot of hard work, a fair amount of creativity, and the ability to put things together in an unusual but interesting way. In other words, this is something you can do. It may take a lot of practice, it likely will not come easily at first, but too many writers think that they can't write a book because it requires some touched-by-the-gods idea that no mortal could conceive alone. You may have to do a lot of revising and working through bad ideas before you get the knack, but the way to come up with good ideas is to actively work at writing, to allow your ideas to grow and become more complex as you outline, and to actually crank out the two pages a day or so it takes to write a book, rather than waiting for the gods to bring you the idea that will finally push you to write that book you know you have in you.

There are many reasons why writing that book may take you a while. Maybe you need to work things out in your mind a bit longer, or live a bit longer, or experience something new before you'll be ready. Those are all good reasons. But waiting for the one single, shining idea that will transform your life is like waiting for Joe Lieberman to transform into a Democrat. As soon as you stop waiting for it, you notice all of the little fragments of good ideas that you already have, and start paying attention to how they can combine into the tapestry of ideas that come together to form a good book.


The Rest of the "How Publishing Works" Series
I do still monitor and respond in the previous episodes, so feel free to post questions or comments in them if you'd like. Unless someone has a more interesting suggestion or I end up chasing something shiny, I'm going to try to start talking about publishing contracts (probably split into a few episodes) next Thursday night.

Part 1 - Why bad things happen to good books.
Part 2 - Avoiding publishing scams.
Part 3 - Literary conventions (with an emphasis on SF Conventions).
Part 4 - Book packagers.
Part 5 - Submitting a manuscript.
Part 6 - Publishing lists.
Part 7 - Literary agents.
Part 8 - Copyediting.
Part 9 - Marketing and publicity.
Part 10 - Outlining.
Part 11 - Editing.
Part 12 - Ideas.
Part 13 - Contracts.
Part 14 - How Writers Get Paid.

Crossposted to Progressive Historians.

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  •  tip jar (21+ / 0-)

    not quite sure where the soliloquy at the end came from, but it bothers me when people never get around to writing things I really want to read

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    by Swordsmith on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 10:40:42 PM PDT

    •  certainly (1+ / 0-)

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      I once read an SF novel, The Far Edge of Darkness that finally got me to the point where I cared about the characters.

      She ended the book by sending the "good guy" characters over a cliff in a car and literally ending the story in mid-air. I presume she had in mind our buying the sequel, which is unavailable. In fact, I couldn't find any indication via Google that she ever intended to write it.

      Perhaps she ran out of ideas at that point? The real mystery, of course, is why a publisher bought and published it in that shape. 1 or 2 chapters would have been enough to provide a reasonable ending.

      Needless to say, I have no intention of ever buying any books which authored or co-wrote ever again.

      I'm pointing people at the Amazon reviews not because I recommend the book, but to give writers an idea of how people react when a writer starts a book, doesn't finish it, and it gets published anyway. If it's part of a series already contracted for and labeled as such, then people expect to buy the next book to find out what happens next.

      If it had been my first exposure to that publisher, Baen Books,   I would have avoided any books by that publisher in the future.

      I strongly recommend the publisher despite this, they sell DRM-free SF e-books in a variety of formats, one of which is for the Palm PDA I use for most of my leisure reading. Their track record is good enough that I can forgive an occasional mistake.

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      by alizard on Sat Sep 23, 2006 at 03:54:34 AM PDT

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      •  it is unfortunate when that happens (0+ / 0-)

        There are a variety of reasons, none of them good and some of them pretty surreal. Especially long stories are often split into two or more books. However, if the first book doesn't sell well enough, the others may never get published.

        An older reason, not really a factor now, was the strict length limits imposed by serialized novels, and that when your book was being published in pieces as you wrote it, you couldn't go back and revise if you wrote yourself into a corner. Take, for instance, George Eliot's The Mill on the Floss, in which she writes her characters into a huge emotional mess which she only has about 30 pages to resolve. Result: The river rises up and drowns all of them. Most unsatisfying ending ever.

        I know of at least one case (not involving Baen) where an embittered editor deliberately bought several really awful books out of revenge on the publisher he was about to leave.

        In the case of this particular book, I don't know the circumstances and, having been warned, will steer clear of the book.

        Jim Baen died recently, btw. He was a controversial figure in many ways, but he certainly helped shape the field, and was responsible for a ton of good books and terrific writers (along with a few dogs, yeah).

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        by Swordsmith on Sat Sep 23, 2006 at 08:50:42 AM PDT

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        •  yeah, I regret his death, too (2+ / 0-)

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          It's a little hard for a regular customer of Baen Books not to be aware of Jim Baen's death, given how long his obit sat on the home page. I'm not complaining about this, of course.

          His biggest contribution to the field of literature, IMHO, was his allowing Eric Flynt to demonstrate that consumer-friendly e-book publication and using the backlist as a marketing tool rather than letting it sit and rot is the path to profit, rather than using DRM to tie a book to a specific machine and use Congress to delete the concept of "fair use" as something practically accessible to customers.

          Of course, it'll probably take a couple of generations for the lesson that a lot more people WILL buy online if the product isn't made to be a pain in the ass to use to propagate through the rest of the industry.

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          by alizard on Sat Sep 23, 2006 at 05:52:52 PM PDT

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          •  even when I was publishing (2+ / 0-)

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            I thought the changes in copyright law, destruction of fair use, and general covetousness regarding electronic rights were incredibly shortsighted and counterproductive. (Basically, the new laws create incredible impediments for all but the largest publishers; they're a pain for everyone else, including most publishers.) Jim Baen had a lot of flaws as a businessman - letting his right wing political views rather than his sense of what was commercial dictate some of his acquisitions, for instance - but he let his libertarianism dictate a lot of his marketing decisions, and did very well by it.

            I liked the Bibliobytes model - giving away books on an ad-driven website, and paying authors royalties based on page views - but the timing was off and the model never quite caught on.

            Other publishers have slowly and cautiously followed Baen's lead - and the way he used his backlist to generate new frontlist readers was brilliant. I'm afraid that without Jim Baen to drive those decisions, some of that cautious progress may well be undone.

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            by Swordsmith on Sat Sep 23, 2006 at 07:04:02 PM PDT

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            •  well, hopefully. . . (0+ / 0-)

              Baen Books will continue what has worked for them, and smart publishers will watch them to find out how to make money with e-book content.

              Actually, the "free content to drive sales" model started with the music / broadcast industry. I've even seen complaints from the music industry about "why are we giving content away to the public?"

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              by alizard on Sun Sep 24, 2006 at 01:29:31 PM PDT

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  •  Woo-hoo! (6+ / 0-)

    Another installment!

    And a good reminder. I just got a great story idea from a chat with my mom.  She won't recognize it when I'm done with it, but it sparked something for me, and I've learned to run with that.

    Now I have to go back and catch up on the installments I missed...

  •  Exactly! (8+ / 0-)

    Honestly, are you peeking through my windows? You wouldn't believe how many people have brought me their "super" ideas, assuming I'd leap with joy and dash to the keyboard, frantic to knock that bad boy right out.

    I just spent about a year working on a complex story, a true one. People who lived the story thought I should be able to simply write down what they said, and we'd have a winner on our hands. They had no grasp of how to present huge amounts of information to a casual reader, how to suck 'em in and keep 'em.

    Accessibility! Amen!

    Or as I prefer to call it, Creating Thirst. Tickle a reader's curiosity. Create thirst ... then sell the water.

    Thanks for another great diary in this series.

  •  One of these days people will understand (7+ / 0-)

    that when Edison said "Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% persperation" he was being extremely generous with the contribution of inspiration.

    Live Free or Die-words to live by

    by ForFreedom on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 11:37:58 PM PDT

  •  Thank you for writing this series (5+ / 0-)

    I have written a counseling workbook and another diarist tipped me off to this series. I have not been able to read all of them yet but it will be an excellent resource for me and I appreciate your effort.

  •  Thank you for writing this series (1+ / 0-)

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    I have written a counseling workbook and another diarist tipped me off to this series. I have not been able to read all of them yet but it will be an excellent resource for me and I appreciate your effort.

  •  Nice addition (4+ / 0-)

    This is one of those weird topics where people outside the profession often simply don't seem to want to believe the professionals.

    I've got something like 35 novels laid out far enough that I could start working on any of them tomorrow, and another couple hundred of novel ideas in the ideas folder, along with who knows how many short story setups.

    Maybe a dozen of those are likely to go anywhere because they're tied to something that's in print or likely to sell soon. But most of them will languish forevermore because by the time I'm done with current projects I'll have fifty more ideas laid out that I find more compelling.

    I don't need new ideas. I need to learn to write faster.

    Kelly McCullough - WebMage, Cybermancy, and CodeSpell available from ACE books (Penguin)

    by KMc on Fri Sep 22, 2006 at 07:39:09 AM PDT

    •  ayup (5+ / 0-)

      Part of the reason I have an agent is to keep me focused on writing the things I'm already working on instead of always chasing after shiny new ideas. She allows me a certain leeway - I can work on three or four projects at once - but past that, I need to finish one of the things I'm working on before I can start another one. As a kid, I was never good at "put away the toys you're playing with before you take out something new."

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      by Swordsmith on Fri Sep 22, 2006 at 07:42:45 AM PDT

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      •  I'm playing pretty shiny right now (4+ / 0-)

        But it's on something that I think will sell, and I didn't allow myself to start until after the contract book and the one that had been requested for consideration were both out the door. That means pretty shiny had to wait about six months, and that it could go back burner again at any time if any of the six projects that are out with editors now gets picked up.

        Kelly McCullough - WebMage, Cybermancy, and CodeSpell available from ACE books (Penguin)

        by KMc on Fri Sep 22, 2006 at 08:24:21 AM PDT

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    •  Actually, a similar thing happens to (3+ / 0-)

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      scientists, as well.  I remember asking one of my profs where she came up with all of her research ideas and she looked at me blankly.  By the time I finished her course, I understood her response: I had at least 10 or 20 of my own research ideas simply from digging into the topic.

      Yea, ideas are a dime a dozen ;)

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      by MTgirl on Fri Sep 22, 2006 at 12:55:16 PM PDT

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  •  My brilliant idea! (2+ / 0-)

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    I once had a great idea for a TV program: It would debunk common nonsense, and I even had a name for it: BS.

    And then I found out Penn and Teller had a program that did just that, and they even named it "Bullshit."

    Did they steal it from me? Not unless they had a time machine, because their program was around before I thought of it.

    So I agree that ideas per se are pretty much common property.

    An interesting side thread: How some ideas are gold.

    Take Edgar Rice Burroughs and Tarzan. Burroughs was a LOUSY writer, but the idea was so great, it overcame his total lack of talent.

    A much more talented writer, Arthur Conan Doyle, came up with Sherlock Holmes, and created an immortal character.

    And everything else Doyle wrote, sank into oblivion.

    I don't know where to go with that thread. I just think it's interesting.

    •  Actually, I love Burroughs (2+ / 0-)

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      Early Burroughs, anyway. The World War II propaganda Tarzan novels were kinda lame. Burroughs looks a whole lot better when you read his contemporaries, and look at a lot of the conventions of the time. (Although he still has things in the books that are laugh-out-loud funny.) He had a memorable character, and books filled with violence, sex, larger-than-life heroes, and giant apes... what else is there?

      He came along with a great idea at exactly the right time, and got really lucky in its treatment (the Weissmuller and Maureen O'Hara films and many other things that broke just right to make the character a pop-culture icon).

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      by Swordsmith on Fri Sep 22, 2006 at 10:26:39 PM PDT

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  •  Re writing a book taking a while (3+ / 0-)

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    "Gone with the Wind" was 10 years in the writing.  I keep reminding myself of that when my book outline looks insurmountable.

    •  it takes however long it takes (3+ / 0-)

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      Is your significant other threatening to become a Republican if you don't finish it this year? Outlines almost always look insurmountable. You'll be convinced it's overwhelming until one day you realize it's done. It's a normal feeling.

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      by Swordsmith on Fri Sep 22, 2006 at 10:29:56 PM PDT

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      •  Funny you should mention the S.O. (2+ / 0-)

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        It's a person who has absolute faith in my ability, but absolutely no interest my book! And keeps asking, "When will it be done?" (Another friend, who is a published author and teaches journalism at a university was visiting this week, so I was able to confide in her at least--she understands, as you said, it takes however long it takes.)

  •  Thanks, as always, (2+ / 0-)

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    Swordsmith.  I've toyed with the idea of writing a book
    for decades.  Most readers do.  But could never even get off page one.  
     The book I've been writing tirelessly for the last
    seven months is almost finished.  I think for the first
    time I chose to write because it was a story I wanted to read.  I actually wrote to see how it would turn out.  I knew how I wanted it to turn out, but until I got to the end, I didn't know if it would work out the way I thought it would.  And naturally, along the way, I fell in love with the characters.
     But getting started is still the hardest part.  I wrote the first 100 pages or so, not daring to even glance at what I'd written so far, for fear of how bad
    it would be.  Somehow, by the time I got that far, I had confidence that I could fix the stuff I didn't like.  
     Anyway, thanks again.

  •  Damnit! (2+ / 0-)

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    I subscribe to your diary, but it doesn't show up...

    Sorry not to recommend... AGAIN!

    I bookmarked your diary instead.

    Great stuff!

    PS: I'm reading Gotham Writers' Writing Fiction right now.. the screenplay book is on order. Plus, I'm gonna take one of their classes.

    Your diary is an inspiration.

    :)
    :::

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